leoindiano
07-11 10:15 AM
Do we know if all EB2's before April 2004 got their GC's?
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Ram_C
09-28 07:18 PM
Receipting people are not the ones adjudicating the cases. They are different people. So there is no used stopping the receipting.
If this news is true, then we can see "wild" approvals before the end of September. Some people with complete cases may overtake others.
Its already end of September, today is the last working day for the month of Sep and moreover do you think the IOs at USCIS are determined to allocate/ use all the visa numbers for this fiscal year??? HELL NO , they give a rat's a** about it and that is why we din't see any "wild" approvals.
If this news is true, then we can see "wild" approvals before the end of September. Some people with complete cases may overtake others.
Its already end of September, today is the last working day for the month of Sep and moreover do you think the IOs at USCIS are determined to allocate/ use all the visa numbers for this fiscal year??? HELL NO , they give a rat's a** about it and that is why we din't see any "wild" approvals.
priti8888
06-26 01:51 PM
What is america losing?
Lets take a typical example:
My friend and his wife both have jobs here. They pay around $50K-60 income tax (approx) as a couple.
They have 10 yrs of exp. (approx) or have masters degree. They have a decent bit of 401K. And about 30 years of career left. They also have capital investment in India which is growing at a good pace.
Now if even one is forced to go back I am sure both of them will go back to India or wherever they are from. Makes sense?
So what are they losing by going back to India? Some $$$$. Thats all? No debt. no hassle, just semi retirement early enough.
Now think about 100 couples like this?
Now think about 1000 couples like this?
1000* 60 K = $60 million of taxes and social security lost. Who is going to pay the troops in Iraq? Or the USCIS dumbo? Will he have a job to do if we leave?
And if we leave who is going to pay the medical bills of the baby boomer who needs medicare soon?
Lets say, they replace us with younger workers. what will be their salary? 50K or 75K. lets say 80 K. Chances are they are single. If they are married. Will their wife work immediately. If no, they are collecting taxes from him at a married rate while his spouse has no income. If his wife is educated, how long will she want to live on H4? If she doesnt get H1 will they both go back or stay here endlessly? Chickens (americans).
How much tax will they will pay? If they are on F1 EAD, even better, they dont even pay social security.
Of course we lost $$$$ income, but we are not in so much deep shit as US would be if they lose 1000 couples, just 2000 people.
Now lets say we go to India and undergo semi retirement. Fine, US companies maintain competitive advantage and they gain most. But if we decide to continue to excel, can not such 2000 start a formidably competitive business? Who wins? India or USA? Or will they start multiple businesses?
Its about the numbers. If 1 or 2 dont get GC , it doesnt matter. But if thousands are impacted, most of them smart people, it will hurt someone here or many ones.
What have we really asked for in return? Just a piece of plastic that will let us live and contribute like everyone else here.
They have a problem with that too. Bloody morons.
For how many years this game of making people fools will continue? Message spreads fast. I am already telling my junior relative what to expect in America.
I totally agree with you, but think about this.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
Lets take a typical example:
My friend and his wife both have jobs here. They pay around $50K-60 income tax (approx) as a couple.
They have 10 yrs of exp. (approx) or have masters degree. They have a decent bit of 401K. And about 30 years of career left. They also have capital investment in India which is growing at a good pace.
Now if even one is forced to go back I am sure both of them will go back to India or wherever they are from. Makes sense?
So what are they losing by going back to India? Some $$$$. Thats all? No debt. no hassle, just semi retirement early enough.
Now think about 100 couples like this?
Now think about 1000 couples like this?
1000* 60 K = $60 million of taxes and social security lost. Who is going to pay the troops in Iraq? Or the USCIS dumbo? Will he have a job to do if we leave?
And if we leave who is going to pay the medical bills of the baby boomer who needs medicare soon?
Lets say, they replace us with younger workers. what will be their salary? 50K or 75K. lets say 80 K. Chances are they are single. If they are married. Will their wife work immediately. If no, they are collecting taxes from him at a married rate while his spouse has no income. If his wife is educated, how long will she want to live on H4? If she doesnt get H1 will they both go back or stay here endlessly? Chickens (americans).
How much tax will they will pay? If they are on F1 EAD, even better, they dont even pay social security.
Of course we lost $$$$ income, but we are not in so much deep shit as US would be if they lose 1000 couples, just 2000 people.
Now lets say we go to India and undergo semi retirement. Fine, US companies maintain competitive advantage and they gain most. But if we decide to continue to excel, can not such 2000 start a formidably competitive business? Who wins? India or USA? Or will they start multiple businesses?
Its about the numbers. If 1 or 2 dont get GC , it doesnt matter. But if thousands are impacted, most of them smart people, it will hurt someone here or many ones.
What have we really asked for in return? Just a piece of plastic that will let us live and contribute like everyone else here.
They have a problem with that too. Bloody morons.
For how many years this game of making people fools will continue? Message spreads fast. I am already telling my junior relative what to expect in America.
I totally agree with you, but think about this.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
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hpandey
07-11 11:15 AM
CIR is the Worst thing on the planet for the legals.
Girish - CIR was meant to help the illegals not us folk. I hope we never have to see CIR again . It would just mean millions more ahead in line whereas we who have been waiting for years will be sent to the dustbin.:mad:
Girish - CIR was meant to help the illegals not us folk. I hope we never have to see CIR again . It would just mean millions more ahead in line whereas we who have been waiting for years will be sent to the dustbin.:mad:
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amsgc
06-26 12:55 AM
In this debate, it is important to consider what "America" really means:
It is not just tech. companies or the USCIS - it is every big, small and mid-size enterprise, school, hospital, university, firestation, state/federal govt etc. It is the local community in which we live, the neighbors we interact with, the folks at the check out counters, our children's daycare, and ofcourse it is our fellow American co-workers, supervisors and friends.
In the final cost & benefit analysis, I am just curious to understand how America stands to gain by preventing the free movement of high skilled labor and intellect across the country. How does it benefit by preventing individuals from getting a higher education or a promotion. It is already too late for most of us to give up at this stage of the process, so most of us will wait it out, and eventually get the green card. If it is going to be 5 yrs. from now, then why not now?
Perhaps the questions should be:
"What is America gaining by keeping high skilled individuals in this state of perpetual limbo"?
And
"What is the cost to America of giving out a Green Card to a high skilled immigrant whose petition to immigrate has been approved by the US govt.?"
It is not just tech. companies or the USCIS - it is every big, small and mid-size enterprise, school, hospital, university, firestation, state/federal govt etc. It is the local community in which we live, the neighbors we interact with, the folks at the check out counters, our children's daycare, and ofcourse it is our fellow American co-workers, supervisors and friends.
In the final cost & benefit analysis, I am just curious to understand how America stands to gain by preventing the free movement of high skilled labor and intellect across the country. How does it benefit by preventing individuals from getting a higher education or a promotion. It is already too late for most of us to give up at this stage of the process, so most of us will wait it out, and eventually get the green card. If it is going to be 5 yrs. from now, then why not now?
Perhaps the questions should be:
"What is America gaining by keeping high skilled individuals in this state of perpetual limbo"?
And
"What is the cost to America of giving out a Green Card to a high skilled immigrant whose petition to immigrate has been approved by the US govt.?"
gk_2000
08-24 01:38 PM
I dont have any opinions on the main topic here - just wanted to chime in on this one...
Many CEOs work for $1 a year - thats just the salary component and only one side of the story. There is another side to it - stocks and options. No one gives up the stocks that they keep getting every year..infact, for many of these guys, the salary is just a drop in the bucket. Their real cash cow is the hundreds of thousands in stocks that they receive each year. Nobody gives those up. The $1 per year is mostly a publicity thing...
So this actually supports my point. There is no "loophole" to close.
I recommend my friends snathan and swissgear to avoid actions based on jealousy over people just like yourself. But hurting them you hurt yourself
Giving reds - is that the only thing you can do? Do you want more "helpful" posts from me? I wish to avoid the specifics of your arguments or rebukes, as they are not important here, so if my replies are not "helpful" then perhaps your arguments are irrelevant to begin with
Many CEOs work for $1 a year - thats just the salary component and only one side of the story. There is another side to it - stocks and options. No one gives up the stocks that they keep getting every year..infact, for many of these guys, the salary is just a drop in the bucket. Their real cash cow is the hundreds of thousands in stocks that they receive each year. Nobody gives those up. The $1 per year is mostly a publicity thing...
So this actually supports my point. There is no "loophole" to close.
I recommend my friends snathan and swissgear to avoid actions based on jealousy over people just like yourself. But hurting them you hurt yourself
Giving reds - is that the only thing you can do? Do you want more "helpful" posts from me? I wish to avoid the specifics of your arguments or rebukes, as they are not important here, so if my replies are not "helpful" then perhaps your arguments are irrelevant to begin with
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chanduy9
07-06 10:26 AM
Please don't post any damageing statments..it may reverse fire on us..dont bash them...
Send them lovely flowers for all the greate and good work they did. I am sure they will get to know what they did and how much pain we are taking..We cant achive any thing hurting some one....
JUST SEND FLOWERS IT WILL EXPLAIN EVERY THING!!!
FLOWER DAY!!! JULY 10TH.
just my 2 cents..
Thanks,
Chandra.
Send them lovely flowers for all the greate and good work they did. I am sure they will get to know what they did and how much pain we are taking..We cant achive any thing hurting some one....
JUST SEND FLOWERS IT WILL EXPLAIN EVERY THING!!!
FLOWER DAY!!! JULY 10TH.
just my 2 cents..
Thanks,
Chandra.
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gcwatchdog
11-20 12:43 PM
Thank you for u'r information, now I got a clear picture.
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Humhongekamyab
02-18 03:49 PM
pardon my ignorance. But since you already applied for 485, it means you will get GC in april 2009(if pd becomes dec 2005) ?
Yes and No. If the PD stays at (let's say) December 15, 2005 and during that time the officer is able to review my file and request a visa number from the DOS then I will get the green card BUT if during this process the PD moves back (let's say December 14, 2005) then I will have to wait for it to be current again for me (i.e. December 15, 2005).
Yes and No. If the PD stays at (let's say) December 15, 2005 and during that time the officer is able to review my file and request a visa number from the DOS then I will get the green card BUT if during this process the PD moves back (let's say December 14, 2005) then I will have to wait for it to be current again for me (i.e. December 15, 2005).
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ameryki
02-06 04:45 PM
I-131 @t Nebraska Center
Receipt Date: 14th Agug
Notice Date: 24th Aug
Received RFE
USCIS received RFE on: 29th Nov
Called them 3 times and everytime the same answer "pending and processing."
Unfortunately my uncle passed away yesteray and I have to travel for the funeral processings. Called USCIS just now and told them to expedite the case. CSR took all the information and told that someone will contact me within 5 business days about case. Hoepfully someone calls/emails and approves my case.
Just wanted to share my experience.
sorry to hear your situation 007! hope things work out for you in time. You could also consider heading home and having someone mail it to you once its received. just an option not sure what your situation is as far how far from approval etc etc
Receipt Date: 14th Agug
Notice Date: 24th Aug
Received RFE
USCIS received RFE on: 29th Nov
Called them 3 times and everytime the same answer "pending and processing."
Unfortunately my uncle passed away yesteray and I have to travel for the funeral processings. Called USCIS just now and told them to expedite the case. CSR took all the information and told that someone will contact me within 5 business days about case. Hoepfully someone calls/emails and approves my case.
Just wanted to share my experience.
sorry to hear your situation 007! hope things work out for you in time. You could also consider heading home and having someone mail it to you once its received. just an option not sure what your situation is as far how far from approval etc etc
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immuser
07-20 04:51 PM
http://www.immigration.com/newsletter1/dolsta1207.pdf
there were 144,000 PERM's done between oct 2006- march 2007
india, china have retro for both EB2 and EB3
mexico, philippines and bunch of other countries have retro for EB3
PERM is only for the Primary applicant. For I-485 every dependent of Primary applicant needs one separate application
Considering all these 750,000 I-485 filings in next 1 month sounds a reasonable estimate.
Many who had labor pending under the old system, applied in PERM also. So it is 144k minus duplicates. But, I have no idea know many are duplicates
there were 144,000 PERM's done between oct 2006- march 2007
india, china have retro for both EB2 and EB3
mexico, philippines and bunch of other countries have retro for EB3
PERM is only for the Primary applicant. For I-485 every dependent of Primary applicant needs one separate application
Considering all these 750,000 I-485 filings in next 1 month sounds a reasonable estimate.
Many who had labor pending under the old system, applied in PERM also. So it is 144k minus duplicates. But, I have no idea know many are duplicates
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SkilledWorker4GC
07-15 04:48 PM
Total So far 1435.00. We are Well short of our target of 2000.00. Let's Go Guys. $5 to IV = Hope for GC = Subway FootLong Sub.
WAKE UP GUYS
WAKE UP GUYS
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satyab7
04-25 11:46 AM
IV , Please consider this as a popular request. I am sure all members of IV would agree to this as well.
I agree ,It would great Priority date must be arrived date - If I am rightly informed, in case of L1 it is so I think.
Thanks.
I agree ,It would great Priority date must be arrived date - If I am rightly informed, in case of L1 it is so I think.
Thanks.
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wandmaker
10-24 04:00 PM
ItIsNotFunny:
I have sent out the email and couple of my friends will also do the same. Good intiative, much appreciated.
I have sent out the email and couple of my friends will also do the same. Good intiative, much appreciated.
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9years
11-08 06:16 PM
I got a email notification from my attorney just now that my I-140 is approved with priority date ported from EB3. Not sure whether I should wait few weeks before initiating interfiling process.
Congrats on your I-140 approval.
Congrats on your I-140 approval.
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ilikekilo
07-24 11:47 AM
my own guess..with all these random approvals and stuff happening i am guessing that the PD for eb3 india would be in late 2003 (dec 2003) or early 2004 like jan/feb 2004...
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buddyinus
08-12 04:24 AM
Agree with you 100% - But Once you start a thread with assertive words peoples start relying on you.... I also posted lots of conversations between myself and USCIS but i was never assertive.
Anyway - this argument will go on forever.
Can we request SriKondoJi/likes not to post anything with strong Affirmative words unless they have some kind of confirmations beyond the general Public's assumption ??
Thanks
Now, the fool is trying to change the subject by asking ppl to join the rally. Why in the world wud ppl trust him? The thread is barely 10 pages and after realizing that therez no point in discussing about what this thread is all about, he has shifted subject loyalites. How lame and insane is this guy? Pappu, LogicLife where r u guyz? Why dont u ban him?
Anyway - this argument will go on forever.
Can we request SriKondoJi/likes not to post anything with strong Affirmative words unless they have some kind of confirmations beyond the general Public's assumption ??
Thanks
Now, the fool is trying to change the subject by asking ppl to join the rally. Why in the world wud ppl trust him? The thread is barely 10 pages and after realizing that therez no point in discussing about what this thread is all about, he has shifted subject loyalites. How lame and insane is this guy? Pappu, LogicLife where r u guyz? Why dont u ban him?
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Milind123
09-13 04:38 PM
GCNaseeb, Appreciate your contribution. Read your signature. It says
"Contributing to US Economy since a Decade; still No Green Card."
People, This is exactly why we are going to the rally on Sept 18th. Are you one of the people who carry a similar signature if not in your IV posts but in your mind? I do. And I don't like it, and I would like that changed.
Please contribute; unless you pull the trigger, we are not going to find the third person.
As I was writing this post, sunty took the 2 fire. 2 more to go.
"Contributing to US Economy since a Decade; still No Green Card."
People, This is exactly why we are going to the rally on Sept 18th. Are you one of the people who carry a similar signature if not in your IV posts but in your mind? I do. And I don't like it, and I would like that changed.
Please contribute; unless you pull the trigger, we are not going to find the third person.
As I was writing this post, sunty took the 2 fire. 2 more to go.
sanam9696
09-14 11:02 AM
Why this fight for EB2 vs EB3..
ideally GC should be given based on one's arrival in US or based on first filing of GC..irrespective of which category u r
keeping that in mind, it doesn't matter, if u r EB2 or EB3 or if u r porting the date..because in either way..one will get GC (luck is still a factor) based on number of years in US or years since GC process started.
given a chance and if permissible under the law, most of us would want to switch to EB1..or even change the birthplace..to avoid this mess..but then it is too difficult to switch to EB1 compared to switching from EB3 to EB2. one would always take the least resistive path and it is right as long as it is not illegal under the current law..(oh..no..don't talk about morality..because when personal interests are at stake..nothing matters..for most of us)
anyway..they have successfully created enough divisions among ourselves EB1,2,3...row...the bright side of eb3 to eb3 porting is..that everyone will become eb2 and then we will stand united..hopefully..but then we will have divisions..eb2 before this year..eb2 originally filed..eb2 with masters from us..eb2 with 5 yrs of experience..eb2 with two masters...eb2 with fair screen..eb2 with black skin..
we have been always like that..divided and self centric and we will remain so and that's why u can see those blood sucking idiots can kill as at their will because we are not indians..but..from up, bihar, gujarat..from castes..region.language..list is endless but then we have never learnt anything from history..that's why ruled by minorities for most of the years in last 2000yrs history..
ideally GC should be given based on one's arrival in US or based on first filing of GC..irrespective of which category u r
keeping that in mind, it doesn't matter, if u r EB2 or EB3 or if u r porting the date..because in either way..one will get GC (luck is still a factor) based on number of years in US or years since GC process started.
given a chance and if permissible under the law, most of us would want to switch to EB1..or even change the birthplace..to avoid this mess..but then it is too difficult to switch to EB1 compared to switching from EB3 to EB2. one would always take the least resistive path and it is right as long as it is not illegal under the current law..(oh..no..don't talk about morality..because when personal interests are at stake..nothing matters..for most of us)
anyway..they have successfully created enough divisions among ourselves EB1,2,3...row...the bright side of eb3 to eb3 porting is..that everyone will become eb2 and then we will stand united..hopefully..but then we will have divisions..eb2 before this year..eb2 originally filed..eb2 with masters from us..eb2 with 5 yrs of experience..eb2 with two masters...eb2 with fair screen..eb2 with black skin..
we have been always like that..divided and self centric and we will remain so and that's why u can see those blood sucking idiots can kill as at their will because we are not indians..but..from up, bihar, gujarat..from castes..region.language..list is endless but then we have never learnt anything from history..that's why ruled by minorities for most of the years in last 2000yrs history..
ItIsNotFunny
09-17 05:27 AM
I have done some ground work and am planning to start a company this week - my wife as owner. I have couple of other friends who have filed 485 in June.
My goal for first couple of years is not to make profit but to increase turnover so it would be easier for me to present the company to big corporations and register as preferred vendor. I am planning to pay 96% of the rate to the employee. This way employee will get most of his / her rate without getting into opening their own corporation. At present I am working with attorney to finalize agreement with employee for this.
My goal for first couple of years is not to make profit but to increase turnover so it would be easier for me to present the company to big corporations and register as preferred vendor. I am planning to pay 96% of the rate to the employee. This way employee will get most of his / her rate without getting into opening their own corporation. At present I am working with attorney to finalize agreement with employee for this.
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